I've been doing a lot of moaning about inconsquential things today until I found out something to put other things into perspective. I've just learn't that my neighbour's grandson was stabbed last night about 11pm, he managed to get to the police station nearby but died in hospital at 8am this morning. They have two boys in custody. He wasn't a bad lad, streetwise but never rude to anyone or into gangs. I pray that something will come about to change this culture we have with so many young people, it's such a waste of young lives......... not just the ones that die but the ones who kill, their lives have gone as well, whatever demon has changed our youngsters let it stop ........... there's so much misery from it please God make it change I feel so sad for his family and others who are affected like this.

I am so sorry for you and your neighbours, it is true that society today seems to have fallen apart, we can only hope and pray that good sense returns and people go back to being civilised again. It is at times like this when I am not sorry to be the age I am, I dread what will happen in the next decade and feel so worried for my grandchildren, Carol

sorry to hear about your neighbours son, such a waste of young life.
Its bad when youngsters have to carry guns or knives when they are out on the streets, they see it as something you must have to protect them selves.
The world is very sick these days Im afraid to say.

We need a miracle to save this world from nasty people, who don't see the danger from stabing or shooting other people.
I pray to god to help us all.......................

What a tragic waste of a young life. I send my prayers for you young boy and his family
Hugs
Becky xxx

OH MY GOD! ANOTHER YOUNG LIFE WASTED,IT'S SO VERY SAD AND TRAGIC,PRAYERS ARE BEING SAID FOR ALL THE FAMILY.

your neighbours will be in my thought today, how terrible, i wonder how things will ever change, all we hear is these awful things every day.

i am sorry to hear this huni think is purley down to the authority they are given, we are not aloud to touch them,

when my dad was younger if he was naughty or rude to someone in the street he would get cout round the ear taken back to his parents then get another one for deserving the first one, do that today and we call claims direct for some money, i don't like smacking kids as i don't think it teaches them anything, but not even teaches can do anything, so teeneagers grow up with this you cant touch me attitude, they have been so protected and not displayed this is the result, we need to take teenagers by the short and curlys or make it compulsory to join the army for at least a year when leaving school, that would straighten them out, i have so much respect for kids in the army esp what they face day in day out these days, i think a tip to where guns and knives are really used to show them its not cool its a very scary place to be, it might straighten them all out

sorry for the rant but even when i was younger i new my teachers could touch me, they didn't even try discipline, getting suspended for a few days was cool, is not saying all teenagers are like that or hats its just teenagers, but kids need to learn that grown ups are to be feared

get supernanny on em all

Well Jan like you say things like this tragedy certainly put things into perspective.

My heart goes out to his family...our time is meant to come before our children, and it's so sad when they're taken from us so young.

Where we live the local teenage boys are causing quite a lot of unease...especially amongst the elderly. And here the problem is under age drinking mostly.

Things are bad...but not heard of any stabbings and the like.

Our local police are making efforts to be more 'present'...as in our neighbourhood people are becoming zero tolerant and phoning them (police) at the first sign of trouble.

We can only hope such violence is stamped out soon.

Linda
xx

How terribly sad and such a waste of a young life, my thoughts are with his family xxxxx

I know it's not just London I think Manchester and Birmingham have problems and it was Liverpool where the little lad who was shot but it seems endemic here. It was mainly NW, SE and East London that had this trouble firstly guns but Trident seems to have sorted a lot of that out now it's knives. There was one boy stabbed to death in a park in Ealing a few months back and now Craig. His Mum, Grandad and brother are devastated it's your worst nightmare. Poor Steve has had so much grief it makes you wonder how he keeps going. About 30 years ago his eldest boy was killed on the railway line he was eleven, there were a group of kids up at the tube depot on the lines he trod on the live one, two years ago his other son, twin to his daughter, had a heart attack and died and now his eldest grandson. He's a quiet man still working at 70, his daughter said he keeps saying God what have I done for all to come to me. It doesn't seem fair, there's one or two right little ***** around here that seem to be teflon coated, nothing ever happens to them though mind you they're probably the doers. I just wish someone or something will bring about changes, they talk about respect but they've not got a clue what real respect is

My heart goes out to all concerned . How devastating for family and friends. May God help them all through this agonising time. I can't think of anything to say that could ease their heartache.
Love,
Colleen x

I can only imagine what this lad's family must be going through - how many more younsters are we going to have to lose before something is done?
My son recently went to work in Norway for a while. He said there was little crime, as such, over there: if anyone did step out of line they were caught, punished (and I mean punished!) and seemed to learn their lesson. I wonder if that country's compulsory two years national service did the trick? Oooohh, I feel another letter to Gordon Brown coming on...

How terrible!!! I certainly hope too that the world will change to the better, as shooting and stabbing and violence is in the newspaper every day now!!! Life is sooo short, so why not enjoy life and be good to each other!?!? Like Carol says, once in a while I get worried about the future of our grandchild soon grandchildren!!!

My thoughts go out to you and your neighbours, my dear friend!!!!

That's really sad Jan.
I always think about my son when I hear things like that, if any of the gang that beat him up had been carrying a knife he probably wouldn't be here now.
The shop about 100 yards from my kids' high school was robbed at knifepoint the other night at exactly the time we pass if we walk the dog that way. Luckily we chose a different route that evening.

it seems to be everywhere, I feel sorry for them they don't have fun like we used to.